Almost everyone considers diversity and inclusion important. Yet, the topic rarely appears high on the HR agenda. Why is that? In this episode of "De Vooruitgang aan Tafel" (The Progress at the Table), Rens de Jong, Annet de Lange (Berenschot) and Jurriën Koops (ABU) search for the answer. They discuss system change, skills-based recruitment, and the paradox of inclusive policies that sound appealing but rarely follow through.